Who is “Our Father” and “Our mother?”

On November 20, 2013 by Admin

A Commentator:

I think we may be struggling to know exactly what you mean.  I will answer for myself but you shouldn’t conclude that I am speaking for other Catholics here.  God is my heavenly Father.  In a spiritual sense, my mother is the Church.  I also believe that Mary, the mother of my Lord Jesus, is also a spiritual mother to me.  I do not believe she is my redeemer; that is only Jesus.  But I honor and love her.

Our (edited) Response:

Thank you for discussing something that is very basic to Christianity – who or what is “our Father” and “our mother.”

As you have said, “Our Father” is the God of heaven as per 23:9. But, “our mother” is the free Jerusalem above – as per Galatians 4:26.

But the Jerusalem that is above is free, and she is our mother

Nowhere in the Bible will you find the words “our holy mother” – that is a Catholicism.

I’ve always wondered about the 5th Commandment:

Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the Lord your God is giving you

How many evil and faithless biological fathers and mothers have there been in our history? The answer is about two in every three. Why would we honor evil and faithless people – even if they gave us birth?

We wouldn’t… He would not ask us to. Evil is evil and should be rebuked.

However, understanding that “our Father” is God and “our mother” is the free Jerusalem above we can understand the 5th Commandment to be:

Honor God and the free Jerusalem above, so that you may live FOREVER in the land the Lord your God is giving you

Now, ask yourself, does this apply if I call my priest ‘father’ (opposing Matthew 23:9)…

And do not call anyone on earth ‘father,’ for you have one Father, and he is in heaven 

Does the promise of the 5th Commandment hold if you or I call Mary or Catholicism our mother?

We are baptized into the womb of “our mother” by a conscious choice. We are reborn from within that womb – because we chose to be; babies cannot make that choice. But Jesus covers them by saying,

Let the children come to me – Matthew 19:14
This also resolves Barack Obama’s doubt in God and His Word. In an interview with Cathleen Falsani on March 27, 2004, Barack Obama said this:
I find it hard to believe that my God would consign four-fifths of the world to hell. I can’t imagine that my God would allow some little Hindu kid in India  who never interacts with the Christian faith to somehow burn for all eternity

Jesus protects every child… until they become free-thinking adults. Then, they have a choice to make.

When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me – 1 Corinthians 13:11

After death, we rise to be with Him, forever, in the free Jerusalem above – not in Rome and not re-birthed from the loins of a woman.

After weeks, years and countless posts, you are the first Catholic (sounds crazy) who trusted enough in me to post your beliefs. And you are the first one I have ever explained it to in this manner. I know your heart is with your loving Savior. Thank you for this grand moment.


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